Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature

Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:11 pm

Alana, the Modern professional career woman, discovers a way to put her learned insights to work for her, so that she can stop working herself.
Allying herself with the institutional powers, the sickly and demented, even laying next to a female, does not make her ill, what sickens her is the non-conformist man of honour and dignity; the one who rejects her, and tricks her, by manipulating that part she pretends she's risen above.

With no dependence upon the man, now inheriting what others have made for her, the only thing that insults her is the presence of an old masculine trait...the one that seduced her, and rejected her.
That dignity she will crush, day by day.
No, not kill it, as a man would.
She will make it suffer - keep him alive to torture.

The monster of woman outperforms that of any man.

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:25 pm

Satyr wrote:

Lyssa wrote:: What is intentionality here?

A supposition of the other's intentions, based on his actions...based on (inter)actions/behaviour.

First-Level of intentionality: PersonA intends to eat, because he reaches for a cookie, and as he licks his lips.
A direct, primal relationship between actor and object/objective.

Second-Level intentionality: Persona A intends to let PersonB know he is going to eat, because there is only one cookie left.

Third-Level intentionality: PersonA intends to let PersonB think he is going to eat, because PersonC is watching, and he wants PersonC to know what PersonB thinks in relation to PersonA.
Perhaps because he wants him to intervene in the case that PersonB intervenes.

Fourth-Level intentionality: PersonA intends to let PersonB think he is going to eat, because PersonC is watching, but PersonC. knows PersonA is faking hunger.

Fifth-Level intentionality: PersonA intends to let PersonB think he is going to eat, because PersonC is watching, but PersonC knows he is faking hunger, but believes PersonB is convinced and wants to see what is going to happen.

It is a empathic web.
What Evolution Psychologists call a mental map.
Humans can reach level 5, and geniuses go further to Lever 6...animals are stuck on level 1, and some go as far as level 2.

In Nihilism this intentionality is ascribed to inanimate objects, to unconscious, un-living, (inter)actions.
It is anthropomorphizing taken to the next level.
One uses other to reflect upon self, which is then projected upon other as intent.
So, a rock (inter)acting with water becomes a self-valuing, or a self-loving, or a wilful act.
The world is full of intentions, which are projected by the observer.

The beginning of religion is here.
All is intentional, ergo all has a purpose, a meaning, it is rational.
The hypothesis becomes a projection of personal motives.

This is where morals are founded.

Always amazing how an abstract word has so much substance if used not by the Moderates.

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Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."

2. "The Noble Hart | my name, and I go
A motherless man abroad;
Father I had not, | as others have,
And lonely ever I live."

Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:13 pm

Han(nibal) transforms everyone (s)he comes into contract with.
The Modern, rational, Apollonian types, are transformed as they try to absorb his/her chaos, his/her madness into themselves, and order it, rationalize it, or as they try to embody it, so as to understand it.
They want to change him/her, and are transformed themselves.

Rebirth through eros.
Giving birth, in the form of inspired reasoning, or changed, as Red Dragon/Jacob when he is consumed by the one he wanted to devour.

The tools of transformation also transform from thymotic blades to erotic penises, slicing, penetrating, spilling blood - the soul is cut to pieces or fertilized.
Male penis wanting to make her his muse, his vehicle is changed by contact - she engulfed him and when he pulls out he is no longer the same.
Wounds transform to vaginas, to orifices, gushing out, painfully, pleasure - the essence of life.
To make her orgasm, or to make her bleed, convulsions of his effect, his hardness.

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:37 pm

A cut is an intrusion upon the organism's unity.
It bleeds out its essence.
Thymos.

A penis is an intrusion upon the female organism's unity.
It inserts a genetic-program which makes the bleeding turn inwards.
Eros.
A female's menstrual cycle is redirected inwards, towards the new unity instigated by the man's sperm, which now has to be protected from the female's own autoimmune system.
Internal hemorrhaging; internal conflict.
The woman glows, with the addition, the collection and preservation of her own blood.

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:18 pm

Satyr wrote:: "Sex with no words, no lies, a pure genetic automatic reactivity...with no memetic corruption - an authenticity you cannot find in everyday life.....pure human animalism…intimate.
No words mediating.

The Body acting.

Is akin to Hannibal's vengeance….brutality.
No angry words, no growling....pure violence.

He was an animal among men a primal force among "civilized" robots.

Erotic<>Thymotic.

Blood gushing like a woman gushing.
Death throws like female orgasms.

Pure animal."

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"All that exists is just and unjust and equally justified in both." [Aeschylus, Prometheus]

"The history of everyday is constituted by our habits. ... How have you lived today?" [N.]

*Become clean, my friends.*

Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Thu May 19, 2016 10:39 pm

In case anyone did not know, Hannibal is not coming back for a 4th season. After season 3 I heard they were looking for a new network /streaming service but I found out today that the show has been totally cancelled.

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:24 am

'We taste so good' - try human blood sausage from #Spain pic.twitter.com/oAH0QPQsWe
— RT (@RT_com) October 27, 2019

Cannibalism you say is out of the question?
Man will never become so degenerate as to eat other humans, despite having access to nutritional options unimaginable in the past?
Yes, my friends...degeneracy has reached a new low.

With the caricature Hannibal Lecter cannibalism was an allegory of his distinctness - his spiritual superiority.
Now it becomes a fashion trend to compensate for the absence of distinctness. Inferiority desperately symbolizing its desired superiority.

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:40 pm

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:49 am

Harrison wrote:: Starling: I think you’re waiting for him to be a hot topic again. What do you want, Barney?
Barney: I want to see every Vermeer in the world before I die.
Starling: Do I need to ask who got you started on Vermeer?
Barney: We talked about a lot of things in the middle of the night.
Starling: Did you talk about what he’d like to do if he was free?
Barney: No. Dr. Lecter has no interest in hypothesis. He doesn’t believe in syllogism, or synthesis, or any absolute.
Starling: What does he believe in?
Barney: Chaos. And you don’t have to believe in it. It’s self-evident.

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:49 pm

Thanks, I was actually looking for this thread since I lost my old text documents

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:02 pm

I separate the Hannibal character into..

Hopkins-Lecter
Mikkelsen-Lecter
Ulliel-Lecter
and
Cox-Lecter

The last was the most precise but the worse because he was a minor part of the movie.
I wanted more Lecter.
Hopkins gave us more, but older, different....more refined, more modern.
Mikkelsen's Lecter had homoerotic elements, but was very artistic, atmospheric, which was appealing to my aesthetics.
Young Lecter was dull.

They could have done so much with that character.

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Subject: Re: Hannibal - Profile of a Caricature Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:00 pm

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